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		<title>Comment on Search for Missing Lieutenant in Florida Expands by john alley &#124; Lasts information</title>
		<link>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2008/05/26/search-for-missing-lieutenant-in-florida-expands/#comment-299</link>
		<author>john alley &#124; Lasts information</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 19:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Search for Missing Lieutenant in Florida Expands26 year-old John Alley has been missing since Friday. Right now volunteers are meeting at the Chapel for the Church of Latter Day Saints on Fox Run Road to coordinate a search effort. Friends and family members of Alley have [&#8230;]Jones Meadows Blog - http://www.jonesmeadows.info [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Search for Missing Lieutenant in Florida Expands26 year-old John Alley has been missing since Friday. Right now volunteers are meeting at the Chapel for the Church of Latter Day Saints on Fox Run Road to coordinate a search effort. Friends and family members of Alley have [&#8230;]Jones Meadows Blog - <a href="http://www.jonesmeadows.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.jonesmeadows.info</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jones Meadows - Wal-mart Coming Soon by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/10/25/jones-meadows-wal-mart-coming-soon/#comment-14</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/10/25/jones-meadows-wal-mart-coming-soon/#comment-14</guid>
		<description>I imagine there is a brief window of time to deal with this.
I would suggest:
            A meeting of people from both Jones Meadows and Jones Farms and areas affected by 106th traffic. (SOON!!)
                        Establish a steering committee
                        If necessary establish a fund raising committee to pay expenses for lawyers
                        An Internet research committee to research successful zoning / Wal-mat “fights”
                        Contacting the Sandy group that valiantly fought Wal-mart.  Hindsight could be beneficial.
                       
Could this be approached by challenging the city council, the planning committee and the officers of the city as to their failure to represent the city residents?
There was a great deal of effort and probably money spent to create a city plan.  It has pretty much been throw to the wind.  The city charter requires that the plan be a guide for the future.  Dale Jones is correct about the zoning of the area being C-C…I have a map dated Jan 2005 and the area was zoned C-C and A-5. Granted the city has the right and even obligation to change the zoning for the benefit of the city.  One thought; the city can and should be locating this new development around the new interstate and light railway.  By centralizing development around those areas they will draw traffic West, reducing the stress on I-15.
 
Roughly 50% of the landmass in the city of South Jordan is West of Banageter Highway.  It is also the least developed.  Rezoning and reducing lot sizes continues to compound (exponentially) the traffic on our overstressed roads.  People who have lived in South Jordan for decades are being displaced by having their homes condemned when roads need to be widened.  Long time residents, who have not been displaced, have experienced the derogation of their homes.  They once lived on a lightly traveled country road, where they could ride horses and let their children walk carefree to the neighbors.  Now they have noise, difficulty exiting their driveways, and their safety is long gone and getting worse. So they leave, leaving behind unwanted homes and neighborhoods. Have you ever wondered what a bicyclist really does at the intersection of Redwood Road &#038; 106th…..the markings are there indicating their lane…it starts up from the middle of the street and ends at Redwood….seems like a suicide lane to me.
 
DEMANDING large lot sizes to our West is a way to reduce the destruction of the inner parts of the city. This is also good for the new building to the West, as the folks purchasing to the West will not experience traffic jams of the type we are currently experiencing. Developing with “exclusivity “ in mind did not hurt Park City, Malibu, or Martha’s Vinyard.
 
Ricky Horst should be required to drive up and down the street (106th   also appropriately known as South Jordan PARKWAY) at least twice each day, one morning, one evening (in both directions) Perhaps that would limit his time in helping developers destroy our city. 
 
The development of the new I-15 freeway entrance and the street, I believe to be 112th, is too little too late.  And the widening of 106th is also too little too late.  Proof of that is the length of time it takes to get onto the freeway now.  Note that the roads close to the freeway are already widened and improved.  The next freeway entrance is 90th…it too is over traveled. Personally, I’ve waited for 10 or more traffic light changes to enter the freeway.  And should I mention how many times I’ve been cut off? How about you?
 
Hope this is helpful.
Markay Perrero</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine there is a brief window of time to deal with this.<br />
I would suggest:<br />
            A meeting of people from both Jones Meadows and Jones Farms and areas affected by 106th traffic. (SOON!!)<br />
                        Establish a steering committee<br />
                        If necessary establish a fund raising committee to pay expenses for lawyers<br />
                        An Internet research committee to research successful zoning / Wal-mat “fights”<br />
                        Contacting the Sandy group that valiantly fought Wal-mart.  Hindsight could be beneficial.</p>
<p>Could this be approached by challenging the city council, the planning committee and the officers of the city as to their failure to represent the city residents?<br />
There was a great deal of effort and probably money spent to create a city plan.  It has pretty much been throw to the wind.  The city charter requires that the plan be a guide for the future.  Dale Jones is correct about the zoning of the area being C-C…I have a map dated Jan 2005 and the area was zoned C-C and A-5. Granted the city has the right and even obligation to change the zoning for the benefit of the city.  One thought; the city can and should be locating this new development around the new interstate and light railway.  By centralizing development around those areas they will draw traffic West, reducing the stress on I-15.</p>
<p>Roughly 50% of the landmass in the city of South Jordan is West of Banageter Highway.  It is also the least developed.  Rezoning and reducing lot sizes continues to compound (exponentially) the traffic on our overstressed roads.  People who have lived in South Jordan for decades are being displaced by having their homes condemned when roads need to be widened.  Long time residents, who have not been displaced, have experienced the derogation of their homes.  They once lived on a lightly traveled country road, where they could ride horses and let their children walk carefree to the neighbors.  Now they have noise, difficulty exiting their driveways, and their safety is long gone and getting worse. So they leave, leaving behind unwanted homes and neighborhoods. Have you ever wondered what a bicyclist really does at the intersection of Redwood Road &#038; 106th…..the markings are there indicating their lane…it starts up from the middle of the street and ends at Redwood….seems like a suicide lane to me.</p>
<p>DEMANDING large lot sizes to our West is a way to reduce the destruction of the inner parts of the city. This is also good for the new building to the West, as the folks purchasing to the West will not experience traffic jams of the type we are currently experiencing. Developing with “exclusivity “ in mind did not hurt Park City, Malibu, or Martha’s Vinyard.</p>
<p>Ricky Horst should be required to drive up and down the street (106th   also appropriately known as South Jordan PARKWAY) at least twice each day, one morning, one evening (in both directions) Perhaps that would limit his time in helping developers destroy our city. </p>
<p>The development of the new I-15 freeway entrance and the street, I believe to be 112th, is too little too late.  And the widening of 106th is also too little too late.  Proof of that is the length of time it takes to get onto the freeway now.  Note that the roads close to the freeway are already widened and improved.  The next freeway entrance is 90th…it too is over traveled. Personally, I’ve waited for 10 or more traffic light changes to enter the freeway.  And should I mention how many times I’ve been cut off? How about you?</p>
<p>Hope this is helpful.<br />
Markay Perrero</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jones Meadows - Wal-mart Coming Soon by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/10/25/jones-meadows-wal-mart-coming-soon/#comment-13</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the link Karen was referring to regarding the High Cost of Low Price:
http://www.walmartmovie.com/
 
Doug Lange</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link Karen was referring to regarding the High Cost of Low Price:<br />
<a href="http://www.walmartmovie.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.walmartmovie.com/</a></p>
<p>Doug Lange</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jones Meadows - Wal-mart Coming Soon by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/10/25/jones-meadows-wal-mart-coming-soon/#comment-12</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/10/25/jones-meadows-wal-mart-coming-soon/#comment-12</guid>
		<description>Good morning.  Any good attorneys in this group?  Do we have a realistic chance?  Sounds like SJ City has and does do what ever they want to despite the input from the community.  This is frustrating when the people are not heard.  Maybe we need a good ole 60's thing like a sit in, a picket, whatever to make SJ City realize that we do care and do not want certain things to come to our neighborhoods.  Has anyone seen a professional footprint of the final project?  Again, as I have stated in the past, I like the results of some of the river bottom development.  Now it seems like because of the developer, things could get out of control out here on the west side in Jones meadow. Let's stay close on this one.  Finally, I do think that the PUD area is going to bring an interesting and upscale look to that intersection and draw higher income, older, established buyers to the area.  Correct me if I am wrong.  I am positive of one thing, I do not know everything.
 
Regards,
Bob Howard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning.  Any good attorneys in this group?  Do we have a realistic chance?  Sounds like SJ City has and does do what ever they want to despite the input from the community.  This is frustrating when the people are not heard.  Maybe we need a good ole 60&#8217;s thing like a sit in, a picket, whatever to make SJ City realize that we do care and do not want certain things to come to our neighborhoods.  Has anyone seen a professional footprint of the final project?  Again, as I have stated in the past, I like the results of some of the river bottom development.  Now it seems like because of the developer, things could get out of control out here on the west side in Jones meadow. Let&#8217;s stay close on this one.  Finally, I do think that the PUD area is going to bring an interesting and upscale look to that intersection and draw higher income, older, established buyers to the area.  Correct me if I am wrong.  I am positive of one thing, I do not know everything.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Bob Howard</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jones Meadows - Wal-mart Coming Soon by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/10/25/jones-meadows-wal-mart-coming-soon/#comment-11</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/10/25/jones-meadows-wal-mart-coming-soon/#comment-11</guid>
		<description>Maybe everyone should watch the video "The High Price for the Low Cost" .  I think that is what it is called.  After watching that, I never wanted anything to do with Wal-Mart again.  I don't know much about politics, and should be more involved with the community, but I think people can fight this, and win.  Thanks, Karen Tramel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe everyone should watch the video &#8220;The High Price for the Low Cost&#8221; .  I think that is what it is called.  After watching that, I never wanted anything to do with Wal-Mart again.  I don&#8217;t know much about politics, and should be more involved with the community, but I think people can fight this, and win.  Thanks, Karen Tramel</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jones Meadows - Wal-mart Coming Soon by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/10/25/jones-meadows-wal-mart-coming-soon/#comment-10</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/10/25/jones-meadows-wal-mart-coming-soon/#comment-10</guid>
		<description>Hi!  So my question is...when did that area become zoned Bangerter Highway Mixed use?  I've been checking the planning comm and city council agendas every week and haven't seen a request for that.  Back in 1995?   when we went to the meetings, Peterson had that area zoned cc, Community Commercial.  Their big sales pitch for that was "4 corners of commercial", with the four corners being the south side of 10400 S., East and West of River Heights Road and the same on the north of 10400 S.   Bangerter Highway mixed use was the zoning they originally requested for the entire area and it was rejected.  Am I correct?  Dale Jones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  So my question is&#8230;when did that area become zoned Bangerter Highway Mixed use?  I&#8217;ve been checking the planning comm and city council agendas every week and haven&#8217;t seen a request for that.  Back in 1995?   when we went to the meetings, Peterson had that area zoned cc, Community Commercial.  Their big sales pitch for that was &#8220;4 corners of commercial&#8221;, with the four corners being the south side of 10400 S., East and West of River Heights Road and the same on the north of 10400 S.   Bangerter Highway mixed use was the zoning they originally requested for the entire area and it was rejected.  Am I correct?  Dale Jones</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jones Meadows - Wal-mart Coming Soon by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/10/25/jones-meadows-wal-mart-coming-soon/#comment-9</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/10/25/jones-meadows-wal-mart-coming-soon/#comment-9</guid>
		<description>Hi Melba and all,
 
Thank you for sharing this information. It is disappointing.
 
I do have some food-for-thought for my neighbors on this email string. Wal-Mart will continue to expand as long as the market supports that expansion and they are profitable or believe they can increase profitability. So please ask yourself:   Does my family shop at Wal-Mart? Will we shop at the Wal-Mart that gets built in my backyard?
 
You may want to dig deeper and ask yourself:  What are the implications of shopping at Wal-Mart? Do you save $10 each visit? What do you pay on the back end for that $10 savings? Or, who pays for that $10 savings? Consider issues that may not reach our neighborhood, but that do affect the world in which we live such as how they achieve their low prices. How do you think they achieve their low prices?
 
If you're aware of the trade-offs involved in benefitting from Wal-Mart, you are a thoughtful consumer.
 
Thanks for reading,
Danielle Wiltgen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Melba and all,</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing this information. It is disappointing.</p>
<p>I do have some food-for-thought for my neighbors on this email string. Wal-Mart will continue to expand as long as the market supports that expansion and they are profitable or believe they can increase profitability. So please ask yourself:   Does my family shop at Wal-Mart? Will we shop at the Wal-Mart that gets built in my backyard?</p>
<p>You may want to dig deeper and ask yourself:  What are the implications of shopping at Wal-Mart? Do you save $10 each visit? What do you pay on the back end for that $10 savings? Or, who pays for that $10 savings? Consider issues that may not reach our neighborhood, but that do affect the world in which we live such as how they achieve their low prices. How do you think they achieve their low prices?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re aware of the trade-offs involved in benefitting from Wal-Mart, you are a thoughtful consumer.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading,<br />
Danielle Wiltgen</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jones Meadows - Wal-mart Coming Soon by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/10/25/jones-meadows-wal-mart-coming-soon/#comment-8</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for keeping us up to date on everything.  It is nice to know what is happening around us.  As I have heard, the city makes over a million dollars a year in sales tax revenue for each Super Wal-Mart.  The big box stores are huge for the city and their bottom line.  That is why they push the stores through instead of keeping with the original plans.  Walmart isn't going to wait to build in Daybreak, they will also build in Daybreak. They are the 7-Eleven of our generation, one on every corner, and the cities are happy to assist them. 
John Beckstead</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for keeping us up to date on everything.  It is nice to know what is happening around us.  As I have heard, the city makes over a million dollars a year in sales tax revenue for each Super Wal-Mart.  The big box stores are huge for the city and their bottom line.  That is why they push the stores through instead of keeping with the original plans.  Walmart isn&#8217;t going to wait to build in Daybreak, they will also build in Daybreak. They are the 7-Eleven of our generation, one on every corner, and the cities are happy to assist them.<br />
John Beckstead</p>
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		<title>Comment on Robberies by Logan</title>
		<link>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/08/09/robberies/#comment-7</link>
		<author>Logan</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, where did that button come from? One more way to keep the predators away. There were a few times we left the house for the day, and I was sure the garage hit the ground and stopped, yet we returned to find it open. Although Rox says I'm still a bit crazy, I can at least feel a bit less so. 

We installed motion and audio sensors in the garage in case the doors came open while we were away, as the alarm system calls our cell phones to alert us of trouble. But not opening at all sure is better. Thanks for posting that lock button info!

Andrew &#38; Roxanne Landsman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, where did that button come from? One more way to keep the predators away. There were a few times we left the house for the day, and I was sure the garage hit the ground and stopped, yet we returned to find it open. Although Rox says I&#8217;m still a bit crazy, I can at least feel a bit less so. </p>
<p>We installed motion and audio sensors in the garage in case the doors came open while we were away, as the alarm system calls our cell phones to alert us of trouble. But not opening at all sure is better. Thanks for posting that lock button info!</p>
<p>Andrew &amp; Roxanne Landsman</p>
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		<title>Comment on Night Vision Address Numbers Caveat by phpkemist</title>
		<link>http://www.jonesmeadows.info/2007/07/19/28/#comment-6</link>
		<author>phpkemist</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might also want to wait to pay the person until after the perform a quality paint job. We've seen their work before and it looks pretty tacky on the curb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might also want to wait to pay the person until after the perform a quality paint job. We&#8217;ve seen their work before and it looks pretty tacky on the curb.</p>
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